Tuesday, December 10, 2024

Rabbi Meiri opens the broadest path for Hinduism to be accepted as non-idolatrous - Hindu-Noahide Book Club 1.8 - Same God, Other God by Alon Goshen-Gottstein

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Part 8 of this book club - (Same God, Other God by Alon Goshen-Gottstein):  

Here we come to the most lenient interpretation of Hinduism when it comes to the question of whether or not it is idolatry with a discussion of Rabbi Meiri. According the Meiri, as long as a religion promotes morality, it is not avoda zara (idolatry).

  • Meiri deals with the status of contemporary religions rather than trying to construct them as Shituf.
  • Modern Jewish scholars of Hinduism like Steinsaltz reference Meiri, giving it contemporary status. 
  • Meiri's work was not widely published until relatively recently, so there is much more influence he can have on the future of the question of Hinduism being idolatry or not.  
  • According to Meiri, the vast majority of idolatry has disappeared and it only exists in far-flug corners. 
  • Modern nations are bound by contemporary modern codes and so do not represent ancient idolatrous nations.
  • Meiri is less concerned with correct theology than he is with correct morals, as long as a society has correct morals, he does not consider it avoda zara (idolatry).
  • The life of the believer, not their theology, determines which god they worship. 
  • Moral nations are ipso facto non-idolatrous.
  • Not just non-Jews, but even Jews who do not keep morality are liable for the death penalty. 
  • If a nation is moral they worship the one true god, even if they venerate idols and astral forces. 
  • Meri places no restrictions on non-Jews from developing their own forms of worship.
  • For Meiri, the intention of a non-Jewish religion is important, not just whether or not it was provided by divine revelation from the god of Israel. 
  • Meiri does not suggest all religions are equal, but that theological error is not so grave for non-Jews as long as they are moral. 
  • Moral living is more important than how god is understood or rituals when it comes to certifying a religion as kosher for non-Jews. 
  • Meiri states, unlike Maimonides, that idol worship actually does work and is attractive, it is not just error and sin. 
  • Meiri called anything a suitable religion which curbs the weaknesses of humans. 
  • If Meiri's suggestion that morality makes a religion suitable for non-Jews, then Hinduism is suitable for non-Jews. 
  • Hindus uphold high morality which may mirror the Noahide Laws. 
  • Idolatry is best described as wanton libertinism, which Hinduism is not. 
  • Immoral practices in Hinduism like temple prostitution and sati (widow burning) are corruptions of the religion and do not bear on the assessment of Hinduism being idolatry or not. 
  • Old immorality in Hinduism changes as the religion self-identifies that it goes through a moral decline, but that this moral decline is rectified by the appearance of teachers in the fallen age to correct mistakes.
  • Hinduism has changed under pressure from outsiders and so immoral Hindu practices that existed 500 years ago no longer apply. 
  • Even Tantra, which allows one to engage in wayward practices sometimes, still admits there is a moral code, which it is breaking, but still acknowledges. 
  • Hindus believe in god's unity.
  • However, even under a Meiri interpretation, there are likely still pockets of avoda zara in Hinduism. 
  • Idolatry is self-serving, nontransformational,  unbridled license, and no moral standards, which does not apply to  Hinduism. 

1 comment:

  1. Hinduism is not an organised religion and has no official religious leader.

    Judaism is basically a religion of social clubs with no clear authority and no demand for a Torah theocracy. Until and unless Jews live under a Torah theocracy, they have no moral authority to tell gentiles anything, not having lived in their own theocracy for 2000 years.

    Sunni Islamic scholars are all morally and intellectually compromised if they live under a monarchy.

    This means the only people in the world left to ask about whether Hinduism is idolatry are Imam Khamenei the Supreme Leader of Iran and the Chief Rabbi of Iran Yehuda Gerami.

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